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OSx86 Project

I really don’t support this kind of actions because if you ask me, hackers are like Trolls with a little bit more of power. Not all of them, but some for sure. OSX86 Project is a site where people discuss, between other things, how to install Mac OS 10.4.4 for Intel in any generic x86 computer. A couple of days ago, Maxxuss said he installed indeed, Mac OS 10.4.4 in a x86 computer. Yep, you read it right, he reached that goal. Apple charged against OSx86 Project and forced them to close their forums.
I really hate when people say things like this in order to cover their own responsibility:

You aren’t allowed to use this guide to install OSX on your PC if you are not an Apple developer! This guide only shows you that it is possible and tells you something about partitioning! So: Buy an Apple from apple.com if you want to run osx!

Please. Come one, we all know you guys are posting this guide to harm the other party (in this case, Apple). The solution? Steve, call your lawyers…

In fact, not just Steve. If you are an Apple developer, or work in a Apple retail store, or you are an Apple provider, or distributor, or technician, or customer support, or if you even just open the door at Apple Inc, call your lawyer. This kind of act can bring a company down X points in the stock market and get 100 people fired. Hacking an OS isn’t that fun you know, Apple isn’t Microsoft.

February 17 , 2006 by Javier

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8 comments on “OSx86 Project”

A multi-billion dollar campany bullies a few kids and you glorify it. I bet you feel special.

>”Hacking an OS isn’t that fun you know, Apple isn’t Microsoft.”

Elsewhere I have questioned the validity of non-programmers throwing the word hacker around (see for example http://commandline.org.uk/2006/rant-alert-would-jesus-run-os-x-on-a-white-box/ ), so I don’t need to labour that point further.

A guy writes some code that allows an operating system to run on more hardware. That is called a ‘driver’, also known as progress. I think you need to be willing to clear your own mind somewhat.

Hacking is always fun, programming is good for the brain and for society.

I do not see how releasing a patch that allows legal owners of an OS to install it on their own choice of hardware is “harm”. I call it a property right.

>This kind of act can bring a company down X points in the stock market >and get 100 people fired.

Absolute nonsense. Apples’ place in the stock market will not be decided by where the operating system is installed but by how many Ipods get out the door. Change in Profit/Earnings = change in stock price. Everything else is nonsense, like your post.

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Zeth
18 of February 2006 at 12:42 am    

You get the typos for free. While Profit compared to turnover is useful, it should read Stock Price/Earnings

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Zeth
18 of February 2006 at 12:46 am    

I do not see how releasing a patch that allows legal owners of an OS to install it on their own choice of hardware is “harm”. I call it a property right.

It wasn’t supposed to be installed in the hardware you choose, but in the hardware they choose. Don’t you think that’s something wrong?

A guy writes some code that allows an operating system to run on more hardware. That is called a ‘driver’, also known as progress. I think you need to be willing to clear your own mind somewhat.

Driver is equal to progress? you have to be kidding me. You really think what those guys are doing is progress? Talking about ego…

Apples’ place in the stock market will not be decided by where the operating system is installed but by how many Ipods get out the door

Well, what we have here. The financial Apple Advisor in person. He knows all Apple financial operations and suddenly, he decided by his own, that MacOS isn’t a big part of the Apple family.

verything else is nonsense, like your post.

That’s why this blog is called ClearYourMind.

No really, Zeth. I understand your reasons and your point of view. It’s valid, really. The thing is, you are seeing this as a consumer fight against X company (can be any company) and I’m seeing it as a business owner fight. Now, I don’t own Apple, but I can put myself on their shoes.

As a consumer, if you ask me if I want to have OSX on any computer, any hardware I choose, I will have to say hell yeah!.

But I see the other side of the fence too, and maybe that’s why I can’t still make my mind on what I really want from all this.

Well, enough! ;)
Thanks for stopping by!

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Javier
18 of February 2006 at 4:10 pm    

>verything else is nonsense, like your post.

Er yeah that was a bit of a late-night flame in the cynical South of England meets Slashdot style. Reading that back I see that it could seem quite offensive to a non-British person.

>It wasn’t supposed to be installed in the hardware you choose, but in the hardware they choose. Don’t you think that’s something wrong?

Well I suspect some of these guys are using install DVDs obtained via file-sharing, but if you can get a legal copy working on your system (whatever it is) then good luck to you.

>Driver is equal to progress? you have to be kidding me. You really think what those guys are doing is progress?

All things being equal a new driver is progress. Well at least in the history of computer science to this point, it is considered a positive thing that more hardware works for an OS. Apple + DMCA = a very weird system where common sense does not really apply. Some people are willing to accept Alice in Wonderland and others do not.

>Well, what we have here. The financial Apple Advisor in person. He knows all Apple financial operations and suddenly, he >decided by his own, that MacOS isn’t a big part of the Apple family.

Well looking at the bare figures, I would say OS X is a bit of a loss leader really. It is there to help get Apple boxes out of the door. These days, Apple mostly makes money from Ipods and selling high-end computing hardware. In my opinion it is still early days for OS X, and feature-wise, in its current guise (with no major architectural changes), it will remain more than competitive against Windows for at least half a decade.

What about after that? I’m sure Apple is keeping its options open, but the move from OS 9 to OS X was, in part, an attempt to reduce costs, since almost all of the core OS was developed outside Apple. If Apple can still sell lots of hardware without having to be in the software business then I’m sure it will go for it. John Dvorak has recently argued on similar lines. (See http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1927886,00.asp )

After all, if Apple could make money out of OS X as a standalone product then it would be shipping the universal install CDs already. Only one company has ever managed to make money out of Operating Systems without hardware, and they came along at a lucky moment and did lots of ‘interesting’ deals along the way that would not be accepted today by the regulatory authorities.

>The thing is, you are seeing this as a consumer fight against X company (can be any company) >and I’m seeing it as a business owner fight. Now, I don’t own Apple, but I can put myself on >their shoes.

Well I believe in a balance, but the scales are now so loaded in favour of large multi-national companies that damage is being done to the rights of customers, small companies, students running web forums and so on, basically everyone outside of the richest 1000 families who now own most of the western world.

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